Placement: Math

Decision Tool for Math Placement 4th  12th Grade
IS THE LAST COURSE THE STUDENT COMPLETED (or will complete) A SAXON MATH COURSE? Yes: Click Here No: See Dr. Shormann's Placement Recommendations below. SELECT THE GRADE THE STUDENT WILL BE IN. 7th Grade or higher and has completed PreAlgebra: Skip to Next Question 4th  8th Grade 9th Grad... 
Can I switch to Saxon or Shormann Math before completing my current math course?
Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant Saxon Math Users Click Here: Can I switch to Shormann Math All Other Publishers (not Saxon or Shormann Math): Select Your Course Algebra 1 
Do I have to complete all the lessons in Saxon or Shormann Math before starting the next course?
Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant Do I need to complete all the lessons in my Saxon book before starting the next course? Taking Saxon 54  76: Finish all the lessons listed on the Assignment Chart in the Teacher Guide DIVE Math. It is much easier to learn the material in these lessons, than... 
I have not finished my Saxon course. Can I switch to Shormann Math now?
Select Your Current Course Saxon Algebra 1 Saxon Algebra 2 Saxon Geometry Saxon Advanced Math Saxon Calculus 
My student completed an Integrated Math 1 course. Which Shormann Math course should be taken?
Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant Average Math Student Or Student Struggled in Integrated Math Start with Shormann Algebra 1. While there will be some review, this review will develop fluency, building a strong foundation for learning new concepts. Since Shormann Algebra 1 & 2 teach all t... 
What should I take after Singapore 6a & b?
Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant Dr. Shormann recommends these students take PreAlgebra using our new Shormann Interactive Prealgebra as it does an excellent job of preparing students for Algebra 1. Featuring daily video lessons, interactive homework, automated grading, grade recording, a s... 
My child is taking Saxon Algebra 1. Should I switch to Shormann Algebra 1 now?
WHAT LESSON IS YOUR STUDENT CURRENTLY ON? Lesson 61 or Higher: CLICK HERE Lessons 160 or is struggling in Saxon: See Below IF YOUR STUDENT IS ON LESSONS 160 OR IS STRUGGLING IN LESSONS 61 OR HIGHER: Yes! As long as your student is Ready for Algebra 1, Dr. Shormann recommends switching to Shorm... 
Should I switch from Saxon Advanced Math to Shormann Precalculus?
Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant If your student has completed 1/2 of the book or less, is struggling, taking too long, etc, it is usually better to switch to Shormann Precalculus. Many students struggle in Saxon Advanced Math because it does not have the lesson reference numbers next to eac... 
What do you recommend for PreAlgebra?
Shormann PreAlgebra SelfPaced eLearning Course is recommended. Based on John Saxon’s teaching methods, this self paced eLearning course features daily video lessons, interactive assignments with automated grading and grade recording, video solutions, Q&A support, and much more. Covering a... 
Placement: My student completed (or will complete) a Saxon Math course.
IF YOU DID NOT USE Saxon Math, Click Here IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SWITCH BEFORE COMPLETING THE CURRENT SAXON COURSE, CLICK HERE SELECT THE LAST SAXON MATH COURSE THE STUDENT HAS COMPLETED OR WILL COMPLETE: Completed: Saxon Advanced Math Completed: Saxon Algebra 2 Completed: Saxon Algebra 1 Comple... 
Can I switch from Saxon to Shormann Math and skip some of the lessons?
No. While there may be some review, Shormann Algebra 1 teaches many concepts not taught in Saxon Algebra 1. For example, Shormann includes 1/2 credit of geometry while Saxon only has 1/3 credit. Shormann also teaches computer math, technology applications (ie: Geometer's Sketchpad, Graphing app,... 
My student is taking CLE Algebra 1. Should I switch to Shormann Algebra 1 now?
Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant Because Shormann Math integrates geometry and algebra, teaches every concept on the newly redesigned PSAT and SAT, as well as the ACT, and CLEP College Algebra exam (3 college credits), I recommend switching to Shormann Algebra 1 as soon as possible. Can I s... 
Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant Because Shormann Math integrates geometry and algebra, teaches every concept on the newly redesigned PSAT and SAT, as well as the ACT, and CLEP College Algebra exam (3 college credits), I recommend switching to Shormann Algebra 1 as soon as possible. Please b...

Yes, Dr. Shormann recommends switching to Shormann Algebra 2 now. It is much easier for the student to develop and maintain fluency when geometry is integrated with algebra. Upon completion, 1 full credit of geometry and 1 full credit of Algebra 2 is earned. Shormann Algebra 2 also provides bet...

What should I take after Saxon Algebra 1?
DID THE STUDENT USE THE THIRD EDITION OF SAXON ALGEBRA 1. No: CLICK HERE. Yes: Next Question DID THE STUDENT EARN AN 80+ ON THE LAST 5 TESTS? NO: Go to the next question. YES: See Dr. Shormann's recommendation here Student earned an 80+ DID THE STUDENT PASS BUT SCORED LESS THAN AN 80 ON THE L... 
What should a student take after Saxon Math 8/7 or Saxon Course 2?
Did your student complete Saxon 8/7 (2nd or 3rd edition) or Saxon Course 2 with a test average of 80+ on the last 5 tests and the Facts Practice Tests? No: Follow the steps on the last page of the DIVE Teacher Guide then take Shormann Algebra 1 with Integrated Geometry. Yes: Take Shormann Alge... 
Which math course do you recommend for 7th Grade?
If your 7th grader is a good math student who has memorized multiplication facts to 9, regardless of which curriculum was previously used, our general recommendation is to take Shormann PreAlgebra. If you have a struggling or reluctant math student, Saxon 7/6 4th Edition is recommended. Math P... 
Is my child ready for Algebra 1?
Select the link below for detailed information on determining if your child is ready for Algebra 1 and what to do if they are not. Is my child ready for Algebra 1 
Placement: My student completed Algebra 1 & Algebra 2 but has not taken Geometry.
Students in this situation can use Shormann Algebra 2 with Integrated Geometry to earn 1 full credit of geometry*. Better than a standalone geometry course, Shormann Algebra 2 also develops and maintains fluency in algebraic skills which makes it easier to learn Precalculus and improves scores o... 
Please see this article: Student Completed Algebra 1 No Geometry Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant

My student is taking Saxon Algebra 2. Should I switch to Shormann Algebra 2.
WHAT LESSON IS YOUR STUDENT CURRENTLY ON? Lesson 61 or Higher: If your student is struggling, see the article below. Otherwise, CLICK HERE Lessons 160: See Below STUDENT COMPLETED LESSONS 160 OR IS STRUGGLING IN LESSONS 61 OR HIGHER: Because Shormann Math teaches concepts on the new PSAT &am... 
My student used Math U See for prealgebra. Is my student ready for Shormann Algebra 1?
Reluctant or struggling math students: See the “Reluctant” section below. Good or strong math students should be ready for Shormann Algebra 1. While there are some gaps between MathUSee PreAlgebra and Shormann Algebra 1, the first 25 lessons of Shormann Algebra 1 has review of the prealgebra... 
My student used Teaching Textbooks PreAlgebra. Is he ready for Shormann Algebra 1?
Good Math Students Because TT PreAlgebra is fairly weak, there are some gaps between Teaching Textbooks PreAlgebra and Shormann Algebra 1. However, a good math student, who knows their multiplication/division tables and completed TT PreAlgebra with an 85 or higher, can fill these gaps by comp... 
SAXON MATH 8/7 is too easy for my student.
Saxon Math 8/7 does have a lot of review of foundational math skills. However, this review is required to develop fluency (accuracy and speed) in the skills needed to excel in Algebra 1. Learn More If you think your student may be ready for Algebra 1, give the student the Facts Practice Test L a... 
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What should I take after Saxon Algebra 2?
1. Did your student use the SECOND OR THIRD Edition of Saxon Algebra 2? NO: CLICK HERE YES: Continue to the Next Question 2. Did the student score an 85 or higher on the last 5 Saxon Algebra 2 tests with a one hour time limit? NO: Go to the next question. YES: Shormann Precalculus is recomme... 
My student completed Algebra 1 (other publisher). Which course do you recommend?
Has your student completed at least 1/2 of a Geometry course? Yes: See Dr. Shormann's recommendations here: Algebra 1 & Geometry No: See Dr. Shormann's recommendations here: Algebra 1 Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant 
Placement: My Student Completed Geometry & Algebra 1
Follow the recommendation for your student: Student Struggles or is a Reluctant Math Student: see Dr. Shormann's Recommendation Here Struggled in Algebra 1 and/or Geometry Good Math Student who Completed Algebra 1 and Geometry with an 80+: Take the Placement Test for Algebra 2. If your student... 
What should I take after PreAlgebra?
If your student successfully completed a prealgebra course (including Saxon 87 or Saxon Algebra 1/2), Dr. Shormann recommends taking Shormann Algebra 1 and Integrated Chemistry and Physics If your student struggled or didn’t pass PreAlgebra, see Is my child ready for Algebra 1? Need Help? Con... 
Math Student Placement Chart and Placement Tests
The articles below have detailed information on selecting the best math course for your child. Math: Student Placement Chart & Tests Science: Student Placement Chart 
Dr. Shormann does not generally recommend skipping Saxon 7/6. However, if the student is in 7th grade or higher or is a gifted math student, you can give the student the Middle School Placement Test. If the student passes, you will know he is ready for Saxon 87 or Shormann Prealgebra. If the st...

Yes! However, Shormann PreAlgebra teaches in a different sequence and includes 21st Century topics not taught in Saxon 87, Saxon Algebra 1/2, and Saxon Course 3. Regardless of how many lessons were completed in Saxon 87, Saxon Algebra 1/2, and Saxon Course 3, students should start on lesson 1 in...

Can my student skip PreAlgebra?
Our standard prerequisite for Algebra 1 is PreAlgebra. However, if you have a gifted math student that you think is ready for Algebra 1 without taking prealgebra, take this Placement Test for Saxon Algebra 1. If the student did not pass the placement test, Dr. Shormann recommends: Shormann Pr... 
Failed or did not finish Saxon Algebra 1, Third Edition
DID THE STUDENT SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE A PREALGEBRA COURSE? No: See: Student failed or didn't finish PreAlgebra Yes: See below. STUDENT SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED PREALGEBRA, BUT FAILED SAXON ALGEBRA 1 Dr. Shormann recommends these students retake Algebra 1 using Shormann Algebra 1 with Integ... 
How to list Shormann math credits on a transcript?
The way credits are listed depends on the type of transcript used. To view credits for each course, select the transcript you are using below: * For a standard transcript, list the credits as it shows under Shormann Math on this page: Standard Transcript * For a Subject Transcript, list the cred... 
If my student completed Geometry, can he skip the geometry lessons in Shormann Algebra 2?
To ensure the student develops fluency (speed and accuracy) in the concepts required to learn all the lessons in the course and prepare for the PSAT, SAT, and ACT, Dr. Shormann recommends all students start with Lesson 1 and complete all lessons as instructed. While there may be some review, most... 
If PreAlgebra is taken in 6th grade, what is taken in 12th grade?
Since Shormann Algebra 1 and Algebra 2 each earn 1 1/2 credits (1 Algebra and 1/2 Geometry) students can take up to three semesters to complete each one. When broken up like this, the credits can be listed on your transcript as Integrated Math 1, 2, and 3. Learn More: Three Semester Schedule Cou... 
Is my child ready for Shormann PreAlgebra?
See Dr. Shormann's recommendations for your student's grade below: 7th Grade: What do you recommend for 7th Grade Math? 8th Grade: What do you recommend for 8th Grade Math? 6th Grade: ** If your student has completed 1&2 below, he is ready for Shormann PreAlgebra** Student has memorize... 
I took Saxon Algebra 2 but need to complete my geometry credit in a few months.
The remaining geometry credit can be earned in the first 40 lessons of Shormann Precalculus. However, there is a small gap between Saxon Algebra 2 and Shormann Precalculus. Therefore, we have 16 video lessons from Shormann Algebra 2 that we recommend students watch before starting Shormann Precal... 
My child is taking Saxon 8/7. Should I switch to Shormann Prealgebra now?
Yes. While Shormann PreAlgebra teaches the same topics as Saxon 87, they are in a different sequence. Also, Shormann PreAlgebra teaches 21st Century concepts not taught in Saxon 87. This means all students must start with lesson 1 and complete all assignments as instructed. 1. IS THE STUDENT S... 
My Student completed Discovering Mathematics Singapore 7a and 7b
Singapore's Discovering Math 7A & B are only the first half of prealgebra and that the remaining prealgebra concepts are taught in 8 A & B. Therefore, if your student completed Singapore 7a and 7b, take Shormann Prealgebra SelfPaced eCourse. If you think your student is ready for Shor... 
My student is 75% finished with Saxon 8/7 but wants to take Algebra 1/2 with his class.
Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant Saxon 87, 2nd or 3rd Edition does the best job of preparing students for Algebra 1. Dr. Shormann's general recommendation is to complete Saxon 87, skip Saxon Algebra 1/2, then go directly to Algebra 1. Learn More: Do you recommend Saxon Algebra ½? But, if yo... 
My student is failing a different publisher's Algebra 1. Can he take Shormann Algebra 1?
Note: If your student did not successfully complete prealgebra or is a reluctant math student, see Dr. Shormann's recommendations here: PreAlgebra Drills in Shormann Math develop fluency in the essential skills for Algebra 1 Students who successfully completed prealgebra but struggle in Alg... 
My student is taking a nonSaxon Prealgebra. Can he switch to Shormann PreAlgebra
Yes, as long as your student meets the prerequisites for this course, Dr. Shormann, recommends switching now. However, because Shormann Prealgebra includes 21st Century topics not found in most prealgebra curriculum, it has a different sequence. So, all students should start with lesson 1 and c... 
Placement: My Student Completed Geometry & Algebra 1
Follow the recommendation for your student: Student Struggles or is a Reluctant Math Student: see Struggled in Algebra 1 and/or Geometry Good Math Student who Completed Algebra 1 and Geometry with an 80+: See Below Take the Placement Test for Algebra 2 If your student scores a 70+ on the place... 
Placement: Student Completed Video Text Mondule A, B, or C
COMPLETED MODULE A (or less) If all multiplication facts to 9 have been memorized, Dr. Shormann recommends Shormann Prealgebra SelfPaced eCourse. This is a PreAlgebra course that teaches everything in Saxon 87 and provides excellent preparation for Algebra 1. If multiplication facts to 9 have ... 
Singapore New Math D 2: Switch to Shormann Math?
Singapore NEM Syllabus D 2 is roughly equivalent to Algebra 1. Since your student is only halfway through, he is not ready for Shormann Algebra 2. Dr. Shormann recommends either taking Shormann Algebra 1 or complete Singapore D2 then start Shormann Algebra 2. Don't worry, if he takes Shormann Alg... 
Student completed VideoText Algebra Module C or D
Since your student has only completed the equivalent of Algebra 1 and has not taken Geometry, please see Dr. Shormann's recommendations here: Completed Algebra 1  No Geometry If you prefer to discuss this with a consultant, please contact us: Contact Student Placement Consultant 
Student earned 80+ on the last 5 tests in Saxon Algebra 1, 3rd Edition.
Dr. Shormann recommends Shormann Algebra 2 with Integrated Geometry. While, there is a small gap between Saxon Algebra 1 and Shormann Algebra 2, a good math student learns them in the review section (first 25 lessons) of Shormann Algebra 2. Since some of these review lessons may not be a review t... 
Student is beyond lesson 60 in Saxon Algebra 1. Should we switch to Shormann Algebra 1?
IS THE STUDENT USING THE FOURTH EDITION OF SAXON ALGEBRA 1? YES: CLICK HERE NO: Continue to next question. IS THE STUDENT STRUGGLING IN SAXON? YES: Dr. Shormann recommends switching to Shormann Math now. Read the section titled, "Lessons 160" here: Should I Switch to Shormann Algebra 1 NO... 
Student is past lesson 60 in Saxon Algebra 2. Should he switch to Shormann Algebra 2 now?
IS THE STUDENT USING THE FOURTH EDITION OF SAXON ALGEBRA 2? YES: CLICK HERE NO: Continue to next question. IS THE STUDENT STRUGGLING? Yes: Student is Struggling: Read the article under Lessons 160 here: Should I Switch to Shormann Algebra 2 No: Student is Not Struggling: Dr. Shormann rec... 
Student passed, but struggled in Saxon Algebra 1, 3rd Edition
Did the student score a 70 or Higher on the last 5 Tests? YES: You can try using our Remediation Plan to repeat the last 30 lessons or you can retake Algebra 1 using Shormann Math (see below) NO: Fluency (speed and accuracy) in Algebra 1 skills is essential for learning Algebra 2. I recommend... 
Switch from NonSaxon Algebra 1 to Shormann Algebra 1
It is best to switch to Shormann Algebra 1 as soon as possible. There is no need to complete your current Algebra 1 course. Can I skip some of the lessons? Because Shormann Algebra 1 integrates geometry and algebra and includes 21st Century topics not found in other Algebra 1curriculum, all stu... 
What should I take after Right Start Level F?
Right Start Level F is a 5thgrade curriculum Good/Average Math Student: Dr. Shormann recommends DIVE + Saxon 7/6 4th Edition followed by Shormann Prealgebra. Struggling/Reluctant Math Student: While Dr. Shormann's standard recommendation is DIVE + Saxon 7/6 4th Edition, you may want to back up ... 
What should I take after Saxon Advanced Math?
Student Completed Saxon Advanced Math, 2nd Edition Good Math Student with Test Average of 80% or Higher on 1 hour Timed Tests These students should be ready for Shormann Calculus. There is a small gap between Saxon Advanced Math and Shormann Calculus. However, these concepts can be learned in th... 
What should I take after Saxon Algebra 1/2 or Saxon Course 3?
Did your student complete Saxon Algebra 1/2 (2nd or 3rd edition) or Saxon Course 3 with a test average of 80+ on the last 5 tests? No: Repeat the last 30 lessons and the corresponding tests as instructed on the DIVE Teacher Guide then take Shormann Algebra 1 with Integrated Geometry. Yes: Take... 
What should I take after Singapore 5a & b?
Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant Dr. Shormann recommends these students take DIVE + Saxon 7/6 4th Edition as it does an excellent job of preparing students for PreAlgebra. 
What should I take after the Fourth edition of Saxon Algebra 2?
The fourth edition of Saxon Algebra 2 does not teach geometry. Therefore, follow the recommendations in this article: My student completed Algebra 1 & Algebra 2 but has not taken Geometry. Need Help? Contact a Math Consultant 
What should my student take after Shormann Algebra 1?
Final Grade of 75+: Ready for Shormann Algebra 2 with Integrated Geometry Final Grade is less than 75, but the student: Scored an 80+ on the final quarterly exam: Take Shormann Algebra 2 with Geometry Scored less than 80 on the final quarterly exam: Contact Us 
What should my student take after Shormann Algebra 2?
Final Grade of 75+: Ready for Shormann Precalculus with Trigonometry Final Grade is less than 75 but, the student: Scored an 80+ on the final quarterly exam: Take Shormann Precalculus with Trigonometry Scored less than 80 on the final quarterly exam: Contact Us 
What should my student take after Shormann Calculus?
Final Grade of 80+: Take Second half of DIVE/Saxon Calculus to prepare for AP Calculus BC Final Grade is less than 80: Contact Us 
What should my student take after Shormann Precalculus?
Final Grade of 75+: Ready for Shormann Calculus Final Grade is less than 75 but the student: Scored an 80+ on the final quarterly exam: Take Shormann Calculus 1 Scored less than 80 on the final quarterly exam: Contact Us 
Which math course do you recommend for 8th Grade?
Has your 8th grader completed PreAlgebra with an 80+? Yes: See Is My Child Ready for Algebra 1? No: If the student has memorized multiplication facts to 9, regardless of which curriculum was previously used, our general recommendation is to take Shormann PreAlgebra If your student has not memo... 
Which math course should I take after Christian Light 6?
If the student completed CLE 6 with an 80+ they should be ready for DIVE Saxon 7/6, 4th Edition. If you have any questions or need more information please contact us here: Math Placement 
Which math course should I take after Christian Light 7?
If the student completed CLE 7 with an 80+ and has memorized all multiplication facts through nine, they should be ready for Shormann PreAlgebra. If the student did not finish, earned less than an 80+, or has not memorized all multiplication facts through nine, Dr. Shormann recommends DIVE Saxo... 
Which math course should I take after Christian Light 8?
Christian Light 8th Grade is considered a PreAlgebra course. If your student completed Grade 8 with an 80+ average, they should be ready for Shormann Algebra 1. If your student earned less than an 80 or is a reluctant math student, you may want to consider taking Shormann PreAlgebra SelfPaced ...